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Dung - rather weird is it not that the typed named under Lord Deben's signature should be ...

Tim Yeo MP
Chairman Energy and Climate Change Committee.

Who actually drafted that letter??

Feb 1, 2013 at 7:09 PM | Registered Commentermatthu

"My understanding is that the ME 262 was delayed...."

Martin - agreed. The Germans could have has the 262 in combat, in large numbers, from 1941 onwards (from memory) if Hitler had allowed it. However, we could have had equivalent aircraft in service in the late 1930s, given different decisions by the Air Ministry:

Air Ministry Neddy: "So, Squadron Leader Whittle. you have this amazing concept to show us?"

FW: "Yes sir, it is a concept that could enable fighters to fly much higher and faster than anything currently possible"

Neddy: "Jolly good Whittle, but we are facing another war with Germany, and we will need all of the piston powered biplanes tha we can build....."

Feb 1, 2013 at 5:59 PM | Unregistered CommenterRoger Longstaff

My understanding is that the ME 262 was delayed by a year or more because of Hitler's insistence it should be configured as a bomber. By the time it was available as an interceptor, the war was essentially lost, its time between engine overhauls was measured in hours because special steels were no longer available and the Reich had no more fuel available.

Had the resources devoted to developing and manufacturing the V2 been devoted to producing the ME 262 by the thousand, the allied bombing campaign and the Normandy landings might both have been turned back. Huge resources were swallowed by the V2 effort.

One horrifying statistic on the V2 is that the slave labourers who perished in its manufacture outnumbered the people killed by the weapon itself.

Feb 1, 2013 at 5:39 PM | Registered CommenterMartin A

Lord Deben has now replied to Yeo on his Veolia interests, says infrastructure is about 1% of Veolia UK's business

Feb 1, 2013 at 5:06 PM | Registered CommenterDung

"...would they have stalled the Allied bombing and/or V1 offensives ?"

If Frank Whittle had not patented his gas turbine invention in the 1930s (to be copied by the Germans), and if the Air Ministry had taken him seriously, WW2 could not had started in 1939. (But don't mention the war). Also, If Alan Bond had not patented (what became) the RB545 the UK would now be leading the second industrial revolution.

Rum things, patents.

Feb 1, 2013 at 4:28 PM | Unregistered CommenterRoger Longstaff

They have to be careful rhoda... enthusiasts tend to care about the subject, so are less likely simply to toe an ideological line when requested. Thus you get bubbly Blue Peter presenters instead of a David Bellamy or a Johnny Ball, who are both deeply enthusiatic and popular.

Feb 1, 2013 at 3:12 PM | Unregistered CommenterTheBigYinJames

Meteor was a safe pedestrian airframe married to a pretty reliable engine. The Me262 was a very good airframe and a high-tech but unreliable engine. The Meteor had no effect on the war, the 262 not much. But the 262 deserved a mention. I gave up on that show with the power generation episode. How could they give a paean of praise to efficiency then push biomass? Or give a mention to solar. Was no engineer avaiIable to explain the effect of energy intensity on efficiency? They seemed to be completely at sea when giving the obligatory nod to renewables and acknowledgement of our collective guilt to have any energy at all at the end. I knew I couldn't stand to watch the propulsion one. They never learn to give the presenter role to an enthusiast who can carry the audience along with stuff they didn't previously know was full of interest. Blue Peter presenters are NFG. Unfortunately every other programme on the Beeb is blue peterish now.

Feb 1, 2013 at 2:23 PM | Registered Commenterrhoda

Ho hum, the dreaded pedantry trap, or "loose lips cost ships".

Right. Yes the ME262 and Gloster Meteor actually saw service simultaneously, but my point was that The Genius of Invention show specifically stated that the Meteor wasn't operating until 1945 ( Dec 44 Jan 45 I think when the new improved Meteors went into active service) and in the process simply ignored the German machine which was developed at the same time.

I'm not sure what point Hector is trying to make

Both aeroplanes are great "what-ifs" - their appearence was too late to have an impact on the conflict, but a year earlier in sufficient numbers - would they have stalled the Allied bombing and/or V1 offensives ?

Anyway my point is that if the presenters had actually stopped saying how awesome everything was or pretending to drink tea, perhaps they'd have told us a few more facts.

Feb 1, 2013 at 2:13 PM | Unregistered CommenterJohn Barrett

Telegraph reporting that wind turbines may have been sabotaged.

Ho hum, community direct action. Something right out of Green Activism 101. Don't forget comrades, that when loosening a really big nut you need a ring spanner and plenty of leverage. An open ender won't do.

Feb 1, 2013 at 1:25 PM | Registered CommenterHector Pascal

James Annan !

"all makes a high climate sensitivity increasingly untenable. A value (slightly) under 2 is certainly looking a whole lot more plausible than anything above 4.5.’"

Feb 1, 2013 at 12:51 PM | Unregistered CommenterBarry Woods

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