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Nov 9, 2011 at 1:18 PM | Unregistered Commenterbreath of fresh air

Nov 9, 2011 at 1:05 PM | breath of fresh air

Not actually able to come up with anything wrong with the IEA report then? No surprises there.....

Nov 9, 2011 at 1:08 PM | Unregistered CommenterZedsDeadBed

Bankrupt EU (all except the Germans who have their hands in their pockets LOL) is blackmailed by China to keep AGW offset subsidy flowing even though subsidy is 70 times more than the cost.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/nov/09/green-group-china-climate-blackmail

Nov 9, 2011 at 1:05 PM | Unregistered Commenterbreath of fresh air

Oh Zed, you're back! We had nobody to laugh at for a while.

Nov 9, 2011 at 12:41 PM | Unregistered CommenterTheBigYinJames

"They've belived it for decades - and presumably nothing has been discovered, no evolving events have transpired to shake that belief one iota.
Only religious zealots remain as steadfastedly convinced as all that. Talk of a near universal consensus in eistence today is poppycock."
Nov 9, 2011 at 12:17 PM | matthu

I'm sure plenty of things have made them check, doubt, recheck, query and re-evaluate. The outcome has been the same each time, the theory is robust and correct. The other thing that tends to keep one believing something is right, is y'know, if you are, and that's what all the evidence says.

This 'religion' accusation is a classic attempt to dismiss climate science without addressing it. It's a silly diversion.

And as for your claims about climate science not having universal consensus, do you actually have any evidence at all for that - my betting is that you don't. In which case, your comment is just empty words.

Nov 9, 2011 at 12:29 PM | Unregistered CommenterZedsDeadBed

They've belived it for decades - and presumably nothing has been discovered, no evolving events have transpired to shake that belief one iota.

Only religious zealots remain as steadfastedly convinced as all that. Talk of a near universal consensus in eistence today is poppycock.

Nov 9, 2011 at 12:17 PM | Unregistered Commentermatthu

"First of all the climate scientists themselves do not believe this rubbish."
Nov 9, 2011 at 11:57 AM | Mike Jackson

Mike - they do. They've believed it for decades, as they have been doing the research, and this is what they've been finding. That's why there is near universal consensus. You have no evidence to support your outlandish comment that climate scientists don't believe this, as it's simply untrue.

Your 'it's all rubbish because I have some trifling grumble about the timing' in no way addresses the contents of the report. It just seems like you finding a daft way to try and dismiss it all out of hand.

Nov 9, 2011 at 12:08 PM | Unregistered CommenterZedsDeadBed

Zed
It's a bit difficult to know where to start really.
First of all the climate scientists themselves do not believe this rubbish. It's a scare story like so many others that appear — oh, quite coincidentally of course — just ahead of the regular IPCC wingdings in far-flung places where it's usually nice and warm and we can let our hair down a bit for a couple of days.
If this had been published six months ago or in three months time, I just might, but probably wouldn't, have given it a bit of credence. The timing says it all.
I'm not sure which bit of this piece of scaremongering you are actually choosing to believe. If you'd been following the debate across a number of sites of varying persuasions, as opposed to dipping in and out here when it suits just to make trouble, you would be aware that there are a number of hypotheses around, backed up what I believe to be pretty good — or at least credible — scientific research which argue very strongly against this now rather tedious repetition of "10 Days to Save the World" or variations thereon.

Nov 9, 2011 at 11:57 AM | Unregistered CommenterMike Jackson

Nov 9, 2011 at 11:21 AM | breath of fresh air

And is there anything you think is wrong in the IEA report?

Are you not a little bit concerned that the window for minimising really bad warming will be effectively closed in only 5 years time? If you've read the article, or looked directly at the IEA strategy report, there's some concerning stuff in there.

The concerns are are real, it's beyond me how you lot seem to almost unequivocally dimiss them out of hand.

Nov 9, 2011 at 11:35 AM | Unregistered CommenterZedsDeadBed

Is there another UN climate change conference due, must be as the 'Its worse than we thought' mod are on overdrive again.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/nov/09/fossil-fuel-infrastructure-climate-change

World headed for irreversible climate change in five years, IEA warnsIf fossil fuel infrastructure is not rapidly changed, the world will 'lose for ever' the chance to avoid dangerous climate change

Nov 9, 2011 at 11:21 AM | Unregistered Commenterbreath of fresh air

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