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Dear all supporters of that stupid idiot Tommy Robinson,
"Forgive my langauge but personally I don't give a f★★k if TR or anyone else exposes and harasses convicted child-rapists outside a court. Frankly they deserve much worse. And so do the authorities who have in some cases facilitated (e.g. sending vulnerable girls from the south-east of England up to 'solo' children's homes in Rotherham) the rape gangs."
Aug 3, 2018 at 11:54 AM | lapogus
So why do you want Tommy Robinson to risk the trial(s) collapsing?
Why do you want any of the Defendants, should they be found Guilty, to have grounds for an Appeal on the basis of accusations that the Jury had been nobbled or biased?
I am very sorry if Tommy Robinson's family has been so badly effected by groomers, whatever their race or religion. Did the perpetrators end up in Court and found Guilty? That is what most Victims and Witnesses want, so they can start to rebuild their lives. Why does Tommy Robinson seek to sabotage the Trials, that may benefit other Victims and Witnesses and ensure that more may become Victims?
What kind of stupid idiot is he, trying to deny Justice for Victims and Witnesses, if he knows the pain, physical and emotional, that they are in?
If Tommy Robinson was campaigning for actual, or chemical castration for sex offenders, I would not object to his campaign. I might even support it, and I would not discriminate between Christians, Jews, Moslems etc, or skin colour. If this became Law, how would supporters of that Law feel, if anyone in Court facing castration had their trial sabotaged by anti-castrationists?
Apart from publcity for himself, at vast cost to other Taxpayers, what has Robinson achieved? We still don't know whether he has caused anyone who is Guilty of vile crimes to "get away with it", now, or on Appeal in months/years to come.
ps I am "fairly confident" that some particularly troubled souls I have helped, or worked with (voluntary) to help others, have been the victims/witnesses in child sex grooming, with resulting prison records for drink/drug related crimes. "Grooming" has been going on in UK Christian schools and institutions for centuries, it does not matter whether it is Catholic Priests, Nuns, Monks, Bishops, Choirmasters, Scout Masters etc.
pps in the car earlier, I heard that the youngest moslem woman (18?) had been convicted of plotting terrorist acts. Good. There was no publicity during the Trial. Was that because responsible reporters respected Reporting Restrictions, in order to avoid the Trial or Verdict collapsing?
golf charlie
@Alan Kendall, Aug 3, 2018 at 8:21 AM
PCar: your arguments and comments (to AK) are as twisted as the trunk of an artificially stunted tree - bonsai logic.
Really? I posit you're projecting.
Contempt is not legally a crime and the sanction for it is not a “sentence of imprisonment” but “committal.” The Leeds judge mistakenly(deliberately?) entered an “order of imprisonment” and imposed a “victim surcharge,” which is only applicable to criminal convictions. He was undisturbed by the fact that, within five hours of the supposed crime, he had single-handedly charged the defendant with it, found him guilty and sentenced him to more than a year in prison.
A comedy of errors or deliberate "punishment by process"?
You make one excuse after another whilst ignoring the law.
"to AK" - those are your initials.
Pcar
A review of Tommy Robinson’s Appeal; August 3, 2018
Well worth reading.
Pcar
Taking TBYJ's point, I'm reporting in on a walk I did today, to the summit of a hill called Hudderstone in the Southern Uplands of Scotland. Beautiful scenery, a haven of peace and tranquility, but absolutely devastated by industrial scale carnage in the form of dozens,if not hundreds of massive wind turbines with access roads bulldozed through the hills.
Environmental vandalism on an epic scale. Where are the protesters?
Mark Hodgson
@golf charlie. Aug 3, 2018 at 10:45 AM
More frothing and misrepresentation.
Yes, imho TR is innocent as he reported nothing other than MSM had already reported.
I said from the start the conviction was wrong, appeal court agreed.
My opinion will now be tested properly. I predict the verdict will be a face-saving Guilty, but time served sufficient.
It would be better if you admitted you were wrong instead of banging on with increasingly ridiculous accusation, insults and slander.
Pcar
@Kleinefeldmaus, Aug 3, 2018 at 11:08 AM
Excellent :)
Pcar
Scientist's say "there are only 8 killer whales left in UK waters"
Times letter writer says "Here in Orkney the pod we see has 15 whales, actually"
stewgreen
@AK, Aug 2, 2018 at 5:22 PM
In fact the latest judgement upheld the appropriateness of applying the sentence from the Kent conviction (presumably because the appeal judges believed that what happened in Leeds did break restrictions originally imposed upon TR
No, they did not - they said appeal was out of time. However, they did uphold appeal that an error of fact must be fixed - like Marson, it was wrongly recorded as a criminal conviction.
Pcar
More than two years ago I complained about yet another discussion thread about Trump in a blog that I considered one of the more important climate scepticism sites. This was met with a barrage of opposition pointing out that BH started out as a politics site.
Supertroll
@Alan "Taqqiya" Kendall, Aug 3, 2018 at 11:33 AM
Do grow up. It's not racist to tell the truth. As others have shown Muslim Child Rape Gangs are the predominant perpetrators; there are few if any large child rape gangs from other religions.
By your standards it is racist to say "almost all IRA terrorists are Roman Catholics" and should not be said.
You're one "I blah all" post: