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tomo. Pray tell me what NEWS (not opinion) supporting fracking has been buried by the BBC and which has appeared in other media? I don't know of any. Exploration companies will not release results for commercial reasons. Supporters don't stick their heads above the parapet for fear of being attacked by the Green Mob. The only real news the media can report are the outrageous rubbish spouted by anti-fracking organizations and celebrities and the stupidities they get up to. This commonly is newsworthy and so it gets reported.
Supertroll
Stewgreen, I was, am a great fan of Bob Carter his lectures first got me to question the theory of CO2 and global warming although as a physicist I know that you could not accurately model a system as complex as the climate. I would urge anyone who has not view one of his lectures to look them up on YouTube and spend some time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tKDYK-uq2Q
Ross Lea
Pope Francis
“We cannot allow our seas and oceans to be littered by endless fields of floating plastic,”“Here, too, our active commitment is needed to confront this emergency.”
A case of look! ... over there! ?
Does he share a PR consultant with HMG?
tomo
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/02/germans-told-get-sofa-stand-against-far-right-violence/
German minister assumes that if the silent majority are stirred enough to get up off the sofa, it's his side they'll support.
TinyCO2
Speaking of Bob "the Legend" Carter
\\ I spoke at conferences to promote the University's carbon accounting finance courses and the like - and I put my heart into it as a true believer.
That is until I spoke with Bob. Bob changed my life. He was the person who opened my eyes to the way facts can be manipulated. More than anyone else, Bob demonstrated the quiet truth about our susceptibility to power and big lies repeated often
.. presenting a one-hour nightly radio show on Brisbane's talk-back station Radio 4BC.. One of my first guests was Bob.
I thought it would make good radio to hear "Mr Full Bottle On The Inconvenient Truth" slaughter the eccentric old salmon swimming upstream. I lasted about 30 seconds before the wily bugger had me on the canvas with his first knock-out punch..//
Michael Smith's blog
stewgreen
@RossLea Yes listening to Andrew Bolt and his radio conversations with Steve Price is way superior to anything in UK
except for listening to the Nigel Farage Show on LBC
The Julia Hartley Brewer Breakfast on Talk Radio digital is OK
although she is well in the London bubble and ultimately a Conservative supporter rather than UKIP
..so can be flaky say on green issues
When "telling women what they can wear" was the in thing, and all other media shouted about grid girls should be banned
..she had grid girls and the butler in the buff guy serving drinks all her show
NB "telling women what they can wear" went of fashion last month and the media scolded Boris for daring to comment on the burqa.
Both Maajid Naawaz and Nick Ferrari have their periods of sense.
But generally Sky's The Pledge goes absolutely loopy with their lefty commenters like Greg Dyke and the race-baiter crew
How come Yasmin AB get brought on as a talking head so often ?
The guy who used to do the thru the night show on Oz-tralia's 2GB was very good and a big supporter of Bob Carter
stewgreen
News reporting is always biased - the only questions are by how much and for what reason.
Sometimes it is so banal and distorted as to be near performance art / black comedy / self parody or simply aimed at putting satirists out of work.
European states have not been inoculated against governmental (or other deep pocketed groups) indulging in press tinkering and the EU Commission itself has people whose job it is to cultivate the media - look for the anonymous benefactors of the BBC and imagine that across the member states - the efforts to sway opinion are pervasive and well funded.
I have spent a bit of time in Turkmenistan where the media clock seems to have been farcically set to 1930s Soviet Union. Turkey seems to be leading "Europe" in the MSM distortion stakes at the moment .
Much bias enters the anglophone MSM via reports simply and uncritically copied and pasted by millennials who aren't familiar with the term "reportage".... see The Guardian.
Supertroll - the BBC on fracking? - if a cogent argument supporting fracking were advanced by an informed individual the chances of it making it to air are near non existent.(Peter Styles comes to mind) I have seen at least two national anti fracking scare campaigns run simultaneously across BBC regional output in the last 5 years It's what Harrabin does ... end of.
tomo
Heh guys and guyesses, I'm arguing specific news stories and their headlines used by the BBC with Mark, not its entire output. The BBC's balance on climate is shocking (but even my main criticism is with those advising the BBC or who give it grief when sceptical views are given an airing). With respect to fracking, my experience is that there is not much news anywhere (excepting the Yorkshire Post - and is this news or opinions?). There are few willing to support fracking, so news and opinion is unbalanced, simply because it is.
Commonly I read criticisms of the BBC here, and when I check around I find the same story elsewhere in the media (either other TV News programmes or the Print Media). Commonly I also find the entire story has come from a News Agency and the BBC is being critiqued for being a messenger.
I engage with Mark because at least I can expect a reasoned argument that makes me re-evaluate my own. I don't agree with him, and I doubt if I convince him much, but I hope we are both stimulated by the controversy.
Supertroll
Here is a very good example of the Bolt Report,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5puMncuGwrY
On Firefox I only got the sound but on IE I got the picture as well.
Ross Lea
AK, you seem not to notice that the BBC has become a mouthpiece for any pressurew group that wants to put its narrative on the news. It's a press release recycler. And all we haters want is a little balance, to hear from the other side.