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Discussion > The Moral and Intellectual Poverty of Climate Alarm

I saw the scrawlings on the chalk so I couldn't resist crossboard posting:

Oppressive establishment jokers on the Left,
Radical counterculture clowns to the Right;
Who'd a thunk I'm
Stuck in the center the circus
Of pedanted pendulums,
With you?
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Apr 14, 2017 at 6:09 AM | Unregistered Commenterkim

kim, if one posits these extremes on some straight line, the centre seems furthest from each
And so that's not a bad place to be 'stuck' imho

Apr 16, 2017 at 3:38 PM | Registered CommenterJohn Shade

Some of the more malevolent and unpleasant characters and their actions as archived in this thread cry out for some kind of explanation. Here is one: they may be examples of sub-clinical psychopaths. See: http://jonjayray.com/psycho.html
and http://www.truthjustice.net/politics/liberalism-and-low-self-esteem/

Apr 16, 2017 at 3:41 PM | Registered CommenterJohn Shade

Drivel then, drivel now. King of Drivel. Yet he had the ear of government when it came to science! Quite shocking. Quite alarming. Truly such people have been the main threat of catastrophe. Mind you, almost everything is more scary than rising carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

Does Sir David King Still Believe The Drivel He Spouted in 2004?

For chapter and verse, see: https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2017/04/19/does-sir-david-king-still-believe-the-drivel-he-spouted-in-2004/

Apr 19, 2017 at 6:33 PM | Registered CommenterJohn Shade

More evidence of the corruption of climate science: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/04/25/former-obama-official-bureaucrats-manipulate-climate-stats-to-influence-policy/

The title says it all. Careful selection of data. Careful downplaying of whatever is unhelpful to 'the cause'. Careful headlines in careful press releases chosen for the hoped-for impact on public opinion. Tawdry is as tawdry does - one suspects this headline could be truthfully replicated with minor adjustments for organisations in many other other countries.

Apr 25, 2017 at 5:00 PM | Registered CommenterJohn Shade

Not only is it hard to find any morally or intellectually admirable folk in the CO2 Scaremongering camp leaders, their followers and supporters can be down at the low end of any scale that could measure them. Here are two posts from today which illustrate this:

1. https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/05/01/the-ignorance-intolerance-and-violence-of-the-climate-crusaders/

2. https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2017/05/01/prof-tom-anderson-shows-his-ignorance/

We are not being led by the brightest and the best to fight the good fight against 'global warming/climate change', nor are their followers in either category. Some pretty dreadful and/or incompetent people are leading and being led in this fatuous crusade.

May 1, 2017 at 3:16 PM | Registered CommenterJohn Shade

John J Ray on his Greenie Watch blog, spells out why the corruption of science in and around climate could be with us for some time yet. This is an introduction he gave to a paper about the sorry state of medical research:

Splashy ideas get the money -- even if they are wrong

The article below is about medical research but similar results are found in other disciplines -- such as psychology. But global warming is probably the most spectacular example of what the article discusses -- that scientists are most likely to get funded if they have an exciting idea to present -- but almost all such ideas are eventually found to be wrong. And saving the planet is a REALLY big idea that yields a golden shower of research grants onto anybody who promotes Warmism. The data is already in which shows that Warmism is BS but until most scientists come out and say it is BS it will still hold sway. But for most scientists concerned, Warmism is their bread and butter so we are going to wait a long time for them to own up

Source: http://antigreen.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/splashy-ideas-get-money-even-if-they.html#links

May 7, 2017 at 7:30 PM | Registered CommenterJohn Shade

Nasty people have been very fond of malaria over the past 50 years or so. It helped soothe their overpopulation nightmares when their attacks on DDT led to a massive increase in deaths due to malaria. More on that phase here: https://junkscience.com/1999/07/100-things-you-should-know-about-ddt/#content

Now the new wave of eco-nasties are riding the CO2 Scare bandwagon, ably supported by the IPCC. They like malaria now as another means to spread their Scare. But, as before, they do that for political, social-engineering, and fantasy reasons rather than science-based ones. See Paul Homewood's reminder of this here: https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2017/05/08/paul-reiters-damning-assessment-of-the-ipcc/

He mentions the BBC doing its bit to push this lever for the Scare: '...as Earth warms northern countries will become more susceptible to outbreaks of "southern" diseases like malaria, cholera and dengue fever, as these pathogens thrive at warmer temperatures.' In response, Homewood writes:

Prof Paul Reiter, one of the world’s leading experts in malaria, completely debunked this whole scare story in 2005, in a written submission to the Parliamentary Select Committee on Economic Affairs.

It is an old story, but many won’t be aware of it. It is worth revisiting it, since it revealed just how corrupt and thoroughly bankrupt the science surrounding climate change in general, and the IPCC in particular, had become.

Here is the final paragraph of Reiter's submission:

41. The natural history of mosquito-borne diseases is complex, and the interplay of climate, ecology, mosquito biology, and many other factors defies simplistic analysis. The recent resurgence of many of these diseases is a major cause for concern, but it is facile to attribute this resurgence to climate change, or to use models based on temperature to "predict" future prevalence. In my opinion, the IPCC has done a disservice to society by relying on "experts" who have little or no knowledge of the subject, and allowing them to make authoritative pronouncements that are not based on sound science. In truth, the principal determinants of transmission of malaria and many other mosquito-borne diseases are politics, economics and human activities. A creative and organized application of resources is urgently required to control these diseases, regardless of future climate change.

31 March 2005

May 8, 2017 at 12:59 PM | Registered CommenterJohn Shade

One of the bottom-feeders at the CO2 Alarm trough is David King:

Let us be very clear. It is an extremely serious affair to provide false evidence to Parliament. Since King was employed by the Government as their representative, this is doubly true.

He should be forced to return to the Committee, apologise and retract his untrue statement.

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2017/05/16/sir-david-king-lied-to-parliamentary-committee/

May 16, 2017 at 4:15 PM | Registered CommenterJohn Shade

May 16, 2017 at 4:15 PM | John Shade

Could SIR David King's Knight hood be recycled, as his legacy goes into catastrophic financial meltdown? He may have cost Taxpayers rather more than SIR Philip Green.

May 16, 2017 at 5:29 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie