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by Bishop Hill
David Davies does climate change
Jun 11, 2015 Climate: Parliament
This speech from David TC Davies in the Commons yesterday was quite unusual in that the speaker seemed to have actually studied what the IPCC and other scientists have to say.
Reader Comments (62)
Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM | Unregistered CommenterMalcolm Chapman
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Have you checked out the limericks by Ruairi that bob up in comments at Jo Nova? There isn't a collected version as yet
Malcolm Chapman
Latest example from comments at
http://joannenova.com.au/2015/06/climate-change-will-ruin-beer-chocolate-coffee-says-the-guardian/#comment-1718564
"Ruairi
June 12, 2015 at 2:26 am · Reply
When climate-change claims are outrageous,
Which for warmists its spread is contagious,
That the climate they fear,
Harms their favourite beer,
Is for newspaper sales advantageous."
Thank you for this posting.
A welcome glimmer of hope after seventy years (1945-2015) of government falsehoods disguised as "consensus science!"
My research mentor, the late Dr. Paul Kazuo Kuroda, probably risked his life by retaining possession of Japan’s atomic bomb design for fifty-seven years,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2170881.stm
to prevent growth of this sinister side of post-WWII consensus science:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10640850/Introduction.pdf
The Sun’s pulsar core made our elements, birthed the solar system, and sustains every atom, life and planet in the solar system today. Political leaders who ignore this reality cannot benefit society.
AND rainforests should be hotter than deserts given the GHE but they can be 20C COOLER!
Jun 11, 2015 at 12:34 PM | John Marshall
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Is that so? They are certainly cooler by day, but then again, they are warmer by night, so what is the average?.
I am not saying that the night-time temperature warmth in a rain forest is a function of backradiation. The higher humidity of the atmosphere in a rain forest means that there is more energy contained in the atmosphere when the sun sets, and the more energy there is the longer that energy takes to dissipate. It is possible that the warm night time temperatures in rain forests is simply a function of the latent energy contained in the atmosphere and heat capacity of that atmosphere and nothing to do with back radiation.
Desert by contrast have little humidity and hence the atmosphere contains little energy when the sunsets. Since it has little in the way of energy at the start of the night, it is not surprising that it gets cooler quicker. The heat capacity of the atmosphere in desert is considerable less than that in a rain forest.
PS. It was refreshing to see an MP know something about the subject that he was talking on, and the rebuttal was brutal.
Witch!
Not the most powerful or fluent of speakers, but an excellent summary of what I take to be the general position of those skeptical of the catastrophic consequences of our CO2 emissions. He certainly knows his material. I hope some of his front bench colleagues took notice.
Just to let you know, folks, that I e-mailed David Davies congratulating him on his speech, and stating my position as a retired engineer and fully-paid-up 'sceptic'.
He replied briefly but warmly and promised to keep on keeping on....
Marginally off-topic - we had a piece on BBC Brekfast News East to the effect that local planners will now have the last 'say' on nshore wind farms, and also that the subsidies were being 'looked at'...
Cue video of a worried lady (as she should be) from Renewables UK waving her arms and saying that all their hard work and future apprenticeships could be seriously affected...
Well - potential apprentices could always go into gas/nuclear/etc industries...!
Davies must subsist entirely on a diet of fish. I suspect his hats are custom fitted for the bulge in the back.
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I am glad to see that one MP appears to know what he is doing, the best of luck to him. Pity about the 600+ others!
Thinking over his speech, I wonder why he did not differentiate between the Summary for Policy Makers from which he quoted and the Scientific Papers that were supposed to be the basis of it. The "Summary" is a purely political statement of what the UN wants to happen and has little or no basis in reallity. Hence our governments slavish application of the rationing to which we are being subjected. You cannot "save" in the same way as you can save money for a rainy day, the only saving is to do without. But again our government is obsessed by reducing energy usage whilst wanting the opposite, as in wanting us to change to electricity for all things, no gas central heating, electric cars for all, but shutting down the only reliable source of secure, affordable electricity. Stupidity squared!