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Saturday
Sep282013

Lindzen on AR5

Mark Morano has obtained a statement from Dick Lindzen on the AR5 Summary for Policymakers. It's short, so I have taken the liberty of reproducing the whole thing here. Fair to say, Lindzen is not impressed:

I think that the latest IPCC report has truly sunk to level of hilarious incoherence.  They are proclaiming increased confidence in their models as the discrepancies between their models and observations increase.

Their excuse for the absence of warming over the past 17 years is that the heat is hiding in the deep ocean.  However, this is simply an admission that the models fail to simulate the exchanges of heat between the surface layers and the deeper oceans.  However, it is this heat transport that plays a major role in natural internal variability of climate, and the IPCC assertions that observed warming can be attributed to man depend crucially on their assertion that these models accurately simulate natural internal variability.  Thus, they now, somewhat obscurely, admit that their crucial assumption was totally unjustified.

Finally, in attributing warming to man, they fail to point out that the warming has been small, and totally consistent with there their being nothing to be alarmed about.  It is quite amazing to see the contortions the IPCC has to go through in order to keep the international climate agenda going.

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Reader Comments (60)

Sep 28, 2013 at 5:55 PM | David Holland

Lindzen, R.S. (1996) The importance and nature of the water vapor budget in nature and models. In Climate Sensitivity to Radiative Perturbations: Physical Mechanisms and their Validation, H. Le Treut (editor), pp. 51-66, NATO ASI Series 1: Global Environmental Change, Vol. 34, Springer-Verlag, Heidelberg, 331p.

If this is the one, the URL is now

http://eaps.mit.edu/faculty/lindzen/178wvapbud.pdf

Sep 28, 2013 at 7:56 PM | Unregistered CommenterMark Well

"Didn't Pol Pot do that in Cambodia? The only difference I can see between the Khmer Rouge and the Greens is human compassion, there isn't much from either, but from what we've seen from the Greens on the DDT ban and their latest fight against Golden Rice, I think the Khmer Rouge edge them on the humanity stakes."

geronimo,

I find that, a quick flit across to the comments section in the Guardian, a peek at the BBC websites, or viewing and observing the continued march towards equality, diversity and multicultural Nirvana by all of our 'wonderful progressives' who contrary to all common sense and the wishes of the people; are goose stepping towards totalitarianism - causes me to metaphorically replace back to the shelf a container - normally it's where I store my jar of, 'faith in the optimism of human nature'.


The jar is lighter these days, maybe it is all the collective hurt and hatred bleeding away at altruism - illogical hatred from my own countrymen who never read their subject and never will understand, get to the bottom of the actual problems, perhaps the promises are all gone, perhaps hatred is all there is left in this manufactured world of Xfactor celebrity and ersatz sympathy and plastic politicians who turned political sanctimony into what passes for popular Zeitgeist.

Sep 28, 2013 at 8:23 PM | Unregistered CommenterAthelstan.

This is only way you can pull the science to pieces. So, why are all these ppeople telling such enormous lies ? Who is behind it ?

The UN is a tool of American corporations (since the US government threatened to defund the UN) . The IPCC is a tool of the oil industry. Pachauri was an oil executive, even while head of the IPCC. Gore was the senator for Occidental Petroleum.


Wikipedia

Pachauri was on the Board of Directors of the Indian Oil Corporation (January 1999 to September 2003)
On 20 April 2002, Pachauri was elected Chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a United Nations panel established by the WMO and UNEP to assess information relevant for understanding climate change.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajendra_K._Pachauri
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...

Sep 28, 2013 at 8:37 PM | Unregistered CommentereSmiff

Dick Lindzen at his best. He is always a pleasure to read and hear.

Sep 28, 2013 at 9:09 PM | Unregistered CommenterBob Tisdale

What I find most interesting about this is that Lindzen gave this statement/scoop to Marc Morano, a political operative whose educational background contains no training in the sciences. This tells me that Lindzen is becoming unashamedly political in his opposition to the IPCC and its apparatchiks. Good news for modern man.

Here's what DeSmog blog has to say about Morano:

http://www.desmogblog.com/marc-morano

There is no skeptic who is more important in this debate than Lindzen. His scientific output in the field has no equal to my knowledge. It's telling that he's working with Morano on this.

Sep 29, 2013 at 3:28 AM | Unregistered Commentertheduke

In discussing the role of the oceans and their heat transfer, this graph of Argo float response was constructed by Willis Eschenbach and shown on WUWT. The graph, with its flat top, invites investigation of negative feedbacks over the tropical oceans.

http://www.geoffstuff.com/Willis%20flat%20SST.PNG
from
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/09/jason-and-the-argo-notes/

Sep 29, 2013 at 3:47 AM | Unregistered CommenterGeoff Sherrington

@theduke: you think Joe Romm would be a better choice?

Sep 29, 2013 at 7:11 AM | Unregistered CommenterHoi Polloi

Over on WUWT...

mwhite says:
September 28, 2013 at 3:22 am

http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/screenhunter_1013-sep-28-00-13.jpg


Fnaa!

Sep 29, 2013 at 7:49 AM | Unregistered CommenterAlan Reed

Why don't sceptics, when invited by the mainstream media to appear, as Dr. Benny Peiser was by ITV News last week, to discuss climate change, refer said media outlet to Professor Lindzen? Then those unfamiliar with the subject will not have the skewed idea that those not in agreement with the IPCC are 'not climate scientists' as Dr. Peiser was described by ITV Science reporter Lawrence McGinty. Those debating Dr. Peiser, and alarmists all, WERE scientists, of course. Time for more sceptical scientists to show their faces, and dispute the nonsense espoused in their name. Otherwise we have the oft repeated accusation that those disputing 'the science' are not experts, which the media love to play up to, and bloggers and journalists happily play along.
And, while on the subject of the erroneous 'their', I read a column on this blog last week that had used '...compared TO....'. several times. Very annoying, and almost as much as 'different TO', a particular favourite of reporters on the news. 'Compared WITH' and 'different FROM', my late lamented English teacher would shriek from on high.

Sep 29, 2013 at 8:39 PM | Unregistered Commenterlindzen4pm

"Why don't sceptics, when invited by the mainstream media to appear, as Dr. Benny Peiser was by ITV News last week, to discuss climate change, refer said media outlet to Professor Lindzen?" - lindzen4pm

The mainstream media are nefariously fashionable, and blacklist anyone who is a heretic, or treat them as paranoid publicity seekers, while ignoring the substance of their evidence.

Sep 30, 2013 at 11:02 AM | Unregistered Commenternigel bryan cook

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