Before an alternative appointment, there should be proper control procedures put in place. Only the science that has been peer-reviewed AND data sets published, should be included. For the forecast scenarios, probability estimates should be backed-up with workings. In other words, nothing more onerous than an undergraduate student who wants to get a first. Finally, contrary (scientific) views should be considered. All sections of the assessment report should be audited against the control procedures. And such auditing would need to be independent. If enacted properly, the next assessment report might be a might shorter, and far less strident. AR5, published in this context, would better show the true science at stands. Closing down the IPCC now will cause conspircacy theorists to say it was big business, not counter-science that closed it. Further, for the sake of other empirical science, (and future panics based on mis-reading of the evidence), it will demonstrate the limits of our knowledge.
I don't think we need the IPCC. As AGW is a scam there is no need for action and therefore the IPCC is redundant.
We also don't need the UN. All democracies should withdraw from it immediately, cease funding those corrupt and good for nothing bureaucrats, and watch it collapse. Lots of money will be saved and the world will be a better place.
What we do need is a commission to prosecute the fraudsters like the WWF leadership, Hansen, Mann, Jones and Pachauri. I nominate Richard North to head it.
This is easy.....of course it must be Sir Humphrey Appleby.
I am only partially joking. The UN must exist as a Talking Shop. After all the alternative to talk is war. So we need the UN as a Talking Shop, but a Talking Shop only.
Can't you just hear Sir Humphrey ...."Talk is fine, but it is absolutely critical, Bernard, that they DON"T ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING ! "
The IPCC is flawed at the outset; the term Climate Change is charged and accordingly biased. But if you change the name to IPC, dismiss the current leaders, and hold the next bunch accountable to the published rules then I think the Panel is worth saving.
Who could argue with a mission seeking more reliable weather forecasts?
As for who should be in charge, well I wouldn't limit the list to people from the field. Let me add to the list
George Mitchell Bill Gates
(I would have added Mikhail Gorbachev but he finds himself on the wrong side of history this time around.)
The UN IPCC has never served any useful purpose in the first place, since AGW is a hoax, and there is therefore no reason for it to be perpetuated. They do not need a new head, they need to be booted in the butt and out the door.
In many ways, the UN has gone off the rails. The UN was formed strictly for the purpose of fostering world peace. Boy, they have been successful at that, haven't they?
Now, today, the UN is attempting to thrust itself into a position as global governor, under the guise of "savior" from anthropogenic climate catastrophe. Enough is enough.
I am an American, and I think it is time for the US to consider withdrawing from the UN and inviting them to relocate their headquarters elsewhere. The UN may have been a good idea, but it just didn't work out.
Whoever hired Pachauri can fire him. Whether that's Ban Ki-moon or a scuttering committee of Climate Cultists, the cap-and-trade Green Gang will have numerous kleptocrats-in-waiting, committed to feeding off Warmists' tax on breathing in Thieves' Markets worldwide. We suggest another sallow string-beard, if possible a ranting Mullah-dullah of Salafi or Wahabist provenance. Nihilist Luddite sociopaths know kindred spirits when they see 'em.
It's such a shame that Kenny Boy Lay is completely and utterly dead (and cremated). He would have been a perfect successor to Pachauri. Enron put carbon trading into the Kyoto Protocol (via Gore).
I'm tempted to back the Homer Simpson suggestion. But seriously there can be no excuse for perpetuating the IPCC; it has cost billions for no useful purpose. Every dollar could have been used for medical research or to feed the hungry. It's not even funny when you think about the 'opportunity cost'; it is deeply disgusting. All politicians who have blindly backed and promoted this scare and used it to distract from domestic problems should hang their heads in shame (can politicians feel shame?). When one considers the inability of these politicians to deal with matters as simple as infrastructure one realises the extent of their lunacy in imagining they can change the climate. Maybe they just all need shrinks?
When I nominated China's lead climate negotiator, Xie Zhenhua, yesterday (a serious suggestion) I omitted the link to the article from which I took my extract. It's here: http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/basic-ministers-task-ipccneed-for-rigour-in-climate-reports/383602/
Me - I want a holiday in Venice, Tanzania and Copenhagen (the beer tastes great) and I like cricket. I also like New York and other major cities especially ones with flash five star hotels and I'm very fond of good food and wine. In fact as I have no qualifications in climate science, but instead spent my life developing a comprehensive knowledge in a completely unrelatedfield (infantry minor tactics) I feel I am uniquely qualified for the post.
Rich wrote: Why isn't there an Intergovernmental Panel on Pandemics? Or Earthquakes? Or Asteroid impacts? Maybe there are but they don't foster hysteria
There is one for pandemics. The WHO, which is a UN body. Don't you remember they declared Swine Flu to be a pandemic. Sir Liam Donaldson was warning of tens of thousands of deaths. The UK ordered huge amounts of vaccine they can't get rid of now. And then there's all the lifestyle 'epidemics' of smoking, drinking, and obesity, in which the WHO plays a central role. They're busy, busy, busy fostering hysteria everywhere!
If you must have an IPCC, or for that matter retain a suppurating kakistocracy such as Ban Ki-moon's UN, put Hans von Storch in charge and let him ream out Climate Cultists from every back-channel interstice beginning with GISS/NASA, Penn State's ESSC, UEA's Hadley CRU and anyone remotely associated with WWF and other Warmists' Green Gang of peculating cap-and-trade poseurs.
Gavin Schmidt for sure. To keep the good ship IPCC afloat on the sea of lies is going to take a real master. Gavin has shown that he is the man for the job and we all admire his unimpeachable integrity. Not to mention his dedication -- he probably checks this blog 12 times a day (hi Gavin!). Plus he has a winning personality.
I was tempted to back the Homer Simpson suggestion but on reflection it won't work. If another UN stooge takes over we'll end up with the slate wiped clean, all current sins forgiven, and the IPCC can simply start over with the same nonsense. If an honest person takes over they will be dragged down by the existing vested interests in the UN. The only chance for sanity is to start again with a fresh committee completely disconnected from the UN and from existing vested interests - if such a thing can be created!
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Before an alternative appointment, there should be proper control procedures put in place. Only the science that has been peer-reviewed AND data sets published, should be included. For the forecast scenarios, probability estimates should be backed-up with workings. In other words, nothing more onerous than an undergraduate student who wants to get a first.
Finally, contrary (scientific) views should be considered.
All sections of the assessment report should be audited against the control procedures. And such auditing would need to be independent.
If enacted properly, the next assessment report might be a might shorter, and far less strident. AR5, published in this context, would better show the true science at stands. Closing down the IPCC now will cause conspircacy theorists to say it was big business, not counter-science that closed it. Further, for the sake of other empirical science, (and future panics based on mis-reading of the evidence), it will demonstrate the limits of our knowledge.
Ross Perot.
I don't think we need the IPCC. As AGW is a scam there is no need for action and therefore the IPCC is redundant.
We also don't need the UN. All democracies should withdraw from it immediately, cease funding those corrupt and good for nothing bureaucrats, and watch it collapse. Lots of money will be saved and the world will be a better place.
What we do need is a commission to prosecute the fraudsters like the WWF leadership, Hansen, Mann, Jones and Pachauri. I nominate Richard North to head it.
This is easy.....of course it must be Sir Humphrey Appleby.
I am only partially joking. The UN must exist as a Talking Shop. After all the alternative to talk is war. So we need the UN as a Talking Shop, but a Talking Shop only.
Can't you just hear Sir Humphrey ...."Talk is fine, but it is absolutely critical, Bernard, that they DON"T ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING ! "
Sir Humphrey is our man.....
Otherwise I second Vaclav Klaus
The IPCC is flawed at the outset; the term Climate Change is charged and accordingly biased. But if you change the name to IPC, dismiss the current leaders, and hold the next bunch accountable to the published rules then I think the Panel is worth saving.
Who could argue with a mission seeking more reliable weather forecasts?
As for who should be in charge, well I wouldn't limit the list to people from the field. Let me add to the list
George Mitchell
Bill Gates
(I would have added Mikhail Gorbachev but he finds himself on the wrong side of history this time around.)
The UN IPCC has never served any useful purpose in the first place, since AGW is a hoax, and there is therefore no reason for it to be perpetuated. They do not need a new head, they need to be booted in the butt and out the door.
In many ways, the UN has gone off the rails. The UN was formed strictly for the purpose of fostering world peace. Boy, they have been successful at that, haven't they?
Now, today, the UN is attempting to thrust itself into a position as global governor, under the guise of "savior" from anthropogenic climate catastrophe. Enough is enough.
I am an American, and I think it is time for the US to consider withdrawing from the UN and inviting them to relocate their headquarters elsewhere. The UN may have been a good idea, but it just didn't work out.
Whoever hired Pachauri can fire him. Whether that's Ban Ki-moon or a scuttering committee of Climate Cultists, the cap-and-trade Green Gang will have numerous kleptocrats-in-waiting, committed to feeding off Warmists' tax on breathing in Thieves' Markets worldwide. We suggest another sallow string-beard, if possible a ranting Mullah-dullah of Salafi or Wahabist provenance. Nihilist Luddite sociopaths know kindred spirits when they see 'em.
Homer Simpson. He has a nuclear industry background and is, therefore, not tainted by ties to Big Oil.
It's such a shame that Kenny Boy Lay is completely and utterly dead (and cremated). He would have been a perfect successor to Pachauri. Enron put carbon trading into the Kyoto Protocol (via Gore).
I'm tempted to back the Homer Simpson suggestion. But seriously there can be no excuse for perpetuating the IPCC; it has cost billions for no useful purpose.
Every dollar could have been used for medical research or to feed the hungry. It's not even funny when you think about the 'opportunity cost'; it is deeply disgusting.
All politicians who have blindly backed and promoted this scare and used it to distract from domestic problems should hang their heads in shame (can politicians feel shame?).
When one considers the inability of these politicians to deal with matters as simple as infrastructure one realises the extent of their lunacy in imagining they can change the climate. Maybe they just all need shrinks?
When I nominated China's lead climate negotiator, Xie Zhenhua, yesterday (a serious suggestion) I omitted the link to the article from which I took my extract. It's here: http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/basic-ministers-task-ipccneed-for-rigour-in-climate-reports/383602/
I vote for Peter Taylor. I bet he's qualified too :)
(screen name just a coincidence btw)
Me - I want a holiday in Venice, Tanzania and Copenhagen (the beer tastes great) and I like cricket. I also like New York and other major cities especially ones with flash five star hotels and I'm very fond of good food and wine. In fact as I have no qualifications in climate science, but instead spent my life developing a comprehensive knowledge in a completely unrelatedfield (infantry minor tactics) I feel I am uniquely qualified for the post.
Rich wrote: Why isn't there an Intergovernmental Panel on Pandemics? Or Earthquakes? Or Asteroid impacts? Maybe there are but they don't foster hysteria
There is one for pandemics. The WHO, which is a UN body. Don't you remember they declared Swine Flu to be a pandemic. Sir Liam Donaldson was warning of tens of thousands of deaths. The UK ordered huge amounts of vaccine they can't get rid of now. And then there's all the lifestyle 'epidemics' of smoking, drinking, and obesity, in which the WHO plays a central role. They're busy, busy, busy fostering hysteria everywhere!
If you must have an IPCC, or for that matter retain a suppurating kakistocracy such as Ban Ki-moon's UN, put Hans von Storch in charge and let him ream out Climate Cultists from every back-channel interstice beginning with GISS/NASA, Penn State's ESSC, UEA's Hadley CRU and anyone remotely associated with WWF and other Warmists' Green Gang of peculating cap-and-trade poseurs.
Professor Fred Singer - he has seniority & is a genuine climate scientist not like the present incumbent who is an engineer.
OK yes it should really be wound up but that would mean cutting pointless bureaucracy & where would governments be if it started a trend.
Gavin Schmidt for sure. To keep the good ship IPCC afloat on the sea of lies is going to take a real master. Gavin has shown that he is the man for the job and we all admire his unimpeachable integrity. Not to mention his dedication -- he probably checks this blog 12 times a day (hi Gavin!). Plus he has a winning personality.
Hillary!
I was tempted to back the Homer Simpson suggestion but on reflection it won't work.
If another UN stooge takes over we'll end up with the slate wiped clean, all current sins forgiven, and the IPCC can simply start over with the same nonsense. If an honest person takes over they will be dragged down by the existing vested interests in the UN.
The only chance for sanity is to start again with a fresh committee completely disconnected from the UN and from existing vested interests - if such a thing can be created!
Thomas the tank engine