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Tuesday
Sep292015

RICO letter disappears

Steve Milloy notes that the letter by Shukla et al calling for sceptics to be had up on racketeering charges has suddenly disappeared from the website where it was hosted.

You can imagine the horror on the signatories' faces when they realised that some very determined people were about to take a close interest in their financial arrangements and those of their colleagues at IGES.

I'm not sure taking the letter down is going to help much though.

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Reader Comments (82)

shub, climate scientists gave up on science years ago, but some of their lawyers have secure financial futures.

Phillip Bratby, if it isn't hiding in the deep ocean, it isn't climate science. Climate science falls to pieces when exposed to daylight, which is why so little has ever been seen.

Sep 29, 2015 at 9:43 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Now at WUWT, the news of the RICO disappearing letter. Watts gives me a hat tip for the alert to him, but in my WUWT comment I tip "mpainter" at ClimateAudit for the earliest alert I could find.

Sep 29, 2015 at 10:34 PM | Unregistered CommenterRussell Cook

Now theres a new letter?!!?!
http://t.co/Uu63D9Wv8V
Saying that the other letter was put there 'inadvertently' and has been removed, and that the IGES is being dissolved.
HT RPielke.
The comedy of cock-ups continues...

Sep 29, 2015 at 10:42 PM | Registered CommenterPaul Matthews

OH. MY. GOD.

I just followed your link Paul Matthews.

How can this be?

the cockroaches are totally scurrying now.

IGES is OVER?
Web site is being decommissioned?

I can't believe what I'm seeing here.

Sep 29, 2015 at 10:52 PM | Unregistered Commentertomdesabla

So, it was decided 2 years ago that IGES would close.
But IGES took at least $500k in 2014, according to CA.
Maybe they are right, a RICO investigation is needed?

Sep 29, 2015 at 11:03 PM | Registered CommenterPaul Matthews

Sep 29, 2015 at 9:22 PM | Mike Post

No doubt Shukla was appointed to replace the disgraced Pachauri, who resigned from that committee a few months ago. In spite of the the TERI internal complaints council ICC, finding him guilty of sexual harassment, Pachauri is fighting it and was involved in the formation of a new ICC, after the chair resigned. TERI (Pachauri) is now saying the ICC didn't follow the rules of natural justice. The court case will be heard a few days before the Paris jamboree, at which Pachauri will be awarded a lifetime achievement award for services to the environment, (just guessing).

Sep 29, 2015 at 11:23 PM | Registered Commenterdennisa

Has anyone made a copy of the IGES website? It's still up at present.

Sep 29, 2015 at 11:30 PM | Unregistered CommenterMike Singleton

What *have* the climate sceptics stumbled on here?!

Sep 30, 2015 at 12:20 AM | Registered Commentershub

dennisa, do you write summaries of TV soap operas?

Does Pachauri ever get the girl, and retire peacefully on a beautiful tropical island, made immune from sea level rise by the Holy Hockey Stick?

Who will replace Pachauri's replacement, and lead the fight for more corruption in climate science?

Will all money designated for climate science's best kept bank accounts, end up in the best kept bank accounts, of the best lawyers money can buy?

Will the next big climate conference have to be arranged with the agreement of the International Panel of Prison Governors?

Will "I'm a Celebrity Climate Scientist, Get Me Out of Here", start with the instruction, here's a spade, start digging a hole for yourself, and keep digging?

Who would be the better prison football team, FIFA or IPCC? Who would be more useful in climate science, FIFA or IPCC.?

Finally, thanks to climate science, the average academic qualification of prison inmates, will go up. One of those somewhat unintended consequences of climate science, but much welcomed by the rest of the world.

Sep 30, 2015 at 12:58 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

This is fun.

http://www.iges.org/people/shukla_gallery.html

The Great RICOist generously and modestly allows minor pollies and religious leaders to be photographed with him. And it seems he won the Nobel Prize! It illustrates so well the purity of his motives and his shy retiring personality.

Oh dear, my hand has slipped :

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/D810/production/_84021355_027990995.jpg

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00401/125251911_Maxwell_B_401242b.jpg

http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article89848.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/image-10-for-the-real-jimmy-saville-gallery-926195150.jpg

Sep 30, 2015 at 4:07 AM | Unregistered CommenterLatimer Alder

But in Virginia academic hacks like this are immune to accountability.

Sep 30, 2015 at 4:20 AM | Unregistered Commenterhunter

Thanks Donna & others for saving the letter.

Some, if not all, of the signers should be nervous, I would guess that the letter violates their human resources policy.

To take one at random: Kevin Trenberth, National Center for Atmospheric Research, Boulder, CO

"UCAR employees may express their own personal views to State, Federal, or Congressional staff. In such instances, employees must not represent their opinions as official UCAR positions"

https://www2.fin.ucar.edu/policies/2-2-congressional-and-agency-interactions-and-lobbying

Sep 30, 2015 at 4:52 AM | Unregistered Commenterclimatebeagle

Seems to me that there are two names that are - at the very least - somewhat conspicuous by their absence in the list of signatories to this "comedy of cockups" [h/t Paul Matthews, above].

I can't imagine why Shukla's fellow faux Nobellist, Michael Mann and the equally disgraceful and disgraced water-boy, Peter Gleick were not listed as signatories. Can you?! This kind of litigious nonsense is right up Mann's alley, is it not?!

But that aside ... On a few related Shukla-notes, just for the record ...

I don't disagree with dennisa's assessment that Shukla's appointment "Prime Minister’s Council on Climate Change for his native India" is most likely a replacement for Pachauri. But I found the following in GMU's Sept. 1 announcement to be, well, interesting:

Countries have different concerns about the planet’s warming trend, Shukla noted. India’s citizens overwhelmingly believe** that climate change is happening but must find a way to balance reducing poverty with creating ecologically sound development, [Shukla] said. [my bold -hro]

** I've absolutely no idea where Shukla might have acquired his information. According to the UN's very own (albeit recently supplanted) survey, as of Tue Sep 29 2015 22:41:24 GMT-0700 a mere 195,195 of the 901,954 people in India who voted had rated "Action taken on climate change" as one of their top six "priorities" - thereby placing it second from bottom of 16 possible priorities.

Has someone, somewhere on the planet, redefined "overwhelmingly believe"?!

It's also worth noting that the quasi-official rapporteur of countless UN gatherings has concluded its summary of the N.Y. gatherings by noting:

Governments announcing so many commitments surely gave support to the UN, which, in a world of broken promises, can usually inspire, cajole, urge, but never threaten or coerce. The final decisions on the indicators, follow-up and review, and climate change will be critical elements for the Agenda’s success, and their full shape has yet to be determined, as is the full scope of the 2015 pivot towards sustainable development.

"The Agenda's success" and a 2015 "pivot"?! Who knows what might lurk in "sustainable development", eh?!

My guess is that whatever it might be - and whatever might lurk therein - unless the democratic nations of the world call the UN to the heel of genuine accountability, this purported "pivot" promises prosperity for none - except UN honchos and their ever-increasing army of unthinking supporters.

Sep 30, 2015 at 8:56 AM | Registered CommenterHilary Ostrov

Full letter is here :

http://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ScreenHunter_3331-Sep.-29-18.05.gif

Bring it on. But I doubt Obama will bring it on because the fraud will then be exposed in public. We will
turn the spotlight back on them.

Sep 30, 2015 at 9:12 AM | Unregistered CommenterIrish Energy Blog

Text of new replacement letter:

The letter that was inadvertently posted on this web site has been removed. It was decided more than two years ago that the Institute of Global Environment and Society (IGES) would be dissolved when the projects then undertaken by IGES would be completed. All research projects by IGES were completed in July 2015, and the IGES web site is in the process of being decommissioned.

Which raises more questions. How does one 'inadvertently' post a letter on a website? IGES was still raking in grant funding in 2014, after the decision to close, and all research done with that money was completed by July 2015?

Sep 30, 2015 at 9:17 AM | Registered CommenterPaul Matthews

@ Sep 29, 2015 at 2:35 PM | golf charlie ...

GMU has, on the other hand, a rather libertarian Economy Facutty, with among others, Walter Williams, Don Boudreaux and Tyler Cowen ...

It was also previously the home of Russ Roberts, the brilliant moderator behind econtalk.org - which I can recommend to all - who has already said quite a few times that he is "rather sceptic" towards CAGW ...

Sep 30, 2015 at 9:59 AM | Unregistered Commenterducdorleans

... and the clueless when-in-a-hole-keep-digging continues. mpainter at CA spots that Corporal Barry Klinger has added an update in which he writes of

"My own ambivalence about the RICO letter..."

Why would you sign a letter to the president and attorney general of the USA if you were ambivalent about its contents?

Sep 30, 2015 at 10:01 AM | Registered CommenterPaul Matthews

Paul Matthews, I think they signed the letter, in order to be assured of their place in history. The history of climate soap opera, seems to move faster than the science.

Sep 30, 2015 at 10:11 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Seeing how GamerGate was a movement to improve ethics in game journalism, in particular to highlight the nepotism and collusion between developers and the media, is this going to become another "gate"?

RICOGate or something like that. It certainly looks like a deepening hole.

Sep 30, 2015 at 10:17 AM | Unregistered CommenterMicky H Corbett

The letter that was inadvertently posted on this web site has been removed. It was decided more than two years ago that the Institute of Global Environment and Society (IGES) would be dissolved when the projects then undertaken by IGES would be completed. All research projects by IGES were completed in July 2015, and the IGES web site is in the process of being decommissioned.

It's not clear whether they are saying the letter should not have been published, or just that it was published it in the wrong place.

Sep 30, 2015 at 10:32 AM | Unregistered CommenterAndyL

It's not clear whether they are saying the letter should not have been published, or just that it was published it in the wrong place.

Sep 30, 2015 at 10:32 AM | AndyL
==================================================
Quite. They are conflating two - it would seem - entirely unconnected events.

Regardless, one must congratulate them on going through such a vast sum of taxpayers' money in the year before they closed. Dom Perignon? Or Penfold's Grange?

Sep 30, 2015 at 11:09 AM | Unregistered CommenterJeremy Poynton

The Shukla household must be a fun place at the moment.

Sep 30, 2015 at 11:32 AM | Unregistered CommenterSwiss Bob

isnt there the waybaçkmachine to recover this letter?

dont know how to use

Sep 30, 2015 at 11:44 AM | Unregistered CommenterVenusNotWarmerDueToCo2

I wonder what would happen if McSteve, Pielke or any others with similar skills started investigating the finances of other ‘warmist leaders’. Even those who haven’t sent letters to the Prez.

Does anybody know anyone with accountancy skills?

Your Grace?

Sep 30, 2015 at 11:52 AM | Unregistered CommenterLatimer Alder

https://nofrakkingconsensus.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/letterpresidentag.pdf

How the bureaucrats of Distopia must hate the internet. Down
the memory hole jest ain't working like it used to do in 1984.

Sep 30, 2015 at 12:59 PM | Unregistered CommenterBeth Cooper

Let's stir up all the investigative reporters that live up to that ideal. Get them onside:

I'll start will a list of all those that I can recall(that are still with us)-

John Pilger

...

Sep 30, 2015 at 7:51 PM | Unregistered CommenterHenry Galt

"GMU has, on the other hand, a rather libertarian Economy Facutty, with among others, Walter Williams, Don Boudreaux and Tyler Cowen ..."

Yes, I notified Dr. Williams several days ago about the RICO letter, and then again about the CA posting.

I've no idea if he took an interest or not.

Sep 30, 2015 at 8:53 PM | Unregistered Commentertomdesabla

Henry Galt: I think you've exhausted the list, now. While you could have packed it with those who are now dead, and many were contemporaneous, they are now gone – and there seems to be precious few (if, indeed, any) to replace them.

Sep 30, 2015 at 11:03 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

Radical Rodent & Henry Galt Investigative Reporters

The name Clark Kent comes to mind, he may have retired by now, and he had an aversion to something Green, as it seemed to drain the life force from him. Much as Greens do, to the rest of the planet to this day.

Oct 1, 2015 at 1:02 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Booker would be appropriate.


According to 'Janes Defence' website the Ricoh letter was sent in support of existing suggestions by Obama and so I am not sure why they would feel threatened by investigation?

Oct 1, 2015 at 11:09 AM | Registered CommenterDung

According to a report on the GWPF, the wheels are starting to turn.
The chairman of the Senate committee on Space, Science and Technology, Senator Smith, has written to Shukla.
Chairman Smith: “IGES appears to be almost fully funded by taxpayer money while simultaneously participating in partisan political activity by requesting a RICO investigation of companies and organizations that disagree with the Obama administration on climate change. In fact, IGES has reportedly received $63 million from taxpayers since 2001, comprising over 98 percent of its total revenue during that time.”

Oct 2, 2015 at 10:07 AM | Registered Commentermikeh

Note to self: it's a good idea to check/refresh the front page before posting. Our Host was ahead of me!

Oct 2, 2015 at 11:00 AM | Registered Commentermikeh

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