Entropic Man, I think that is why Americans looking for Science, don't read Scientific American. I expect they are big on the politics supporting climate science, and the climate science supporting politics.

The Green Blob have just realised that they have run out of other people's money, from the United States. The UK is not very keen having ditched the DECC. The EU is a bit short of cash having lost the UK, and having more mouths to feed.

They never predicted any of it in their financial models either.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/11/19/cop22-green-groups-wheres-the-money/

The BBC will be organising an appeal called GreenRelief. It could be quite comic. No more fully expensed holidays in exotic locations, for Greens or their supporting main stream media.

Mark Hodgson

You are discussing the old psychological difference between conservatives and liberals.

It is noticeable that most of those posting regularly at BH think like conservatives.

Trams. Tramlines were/are evident in Portsmouth. Like Glasgow that SandyS remembers, they would have been ideal for moving goods and workforces around in conjunction with the railways, even if chuffing steam locomotives were not unwelcome due to their relentless chuffing. Portsmouth is also a glorified mudflat, and is therefore flat and level. The adjacent Gosport is similar, and was the munitions manufacture and storage depot for the Royal Navy.

Narrow gauge railways were easy to lay, move and relay, for the army during WW1, but they were not electric.

Were trams sacrificed to make way for double decker buses that would have fouled the power lines, and diesel engined buses were more flexible around routes? The RouteMaster bus remains a brilliant bit of design, but was it named, partially to demonstrate it's superiority over trams and their lines?

The same is true of Trump's supporters; they included far-right organisations like the KKK and this support was accepted. One tends to be judged by one's friends, especially if you don't refute those you don't wish to be associated with.

Nov 18, 2016 at 12:44 PM | Unregistered CommenterACK

ACK, if you are still interested, here is a link to a lengthy article which details Trump rejecting support from the KKK on several occasions. The author is most definitely not a Trump supporter, and makes this quite clear. If you don't want to read the whole article, I counted about 14 or 15 page-downs to the direct quotes, with sources, in section 5.