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Judith Curry has resigned from Georgia Tech.

Jan 3, 2017 at 5:25 PM | Unregistered CommenterSchrodinger's Cat

Meanwhile back in the Reality of historical Climate

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/01/03/documenting-the-global-extent-of-the-medieval-warm-period/

Seems the Hockey Team including Wikipedia adjuster William M Connolley have failed to erase records of the MWP.

Jan 3, 2017 at 5:17 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Yes I never said that Celford was a bacteria I know it was an aluminium compound.
The point was its was contamination in the water.
My simple point is that is overdramatic to say "you must never drink from the hot tap in any circumstances"
eg if its coming from a modern system direct to boiler or you know the cold tank is properly covered the risk of a gulp must be tiny to a healthy adult.
A mountain stream below zero sheep/cow level would be higher.

Jan 3, 2017 at 4:54 PM | Unregistered Commenterstewgreen

Jan 3, 2017 at 3:33 PM | stewgreen

Camelford was a result of the right chemical, being put in the wrong tank, so it ended up in drinking water at very high levels. It was nothing to do with bacterial contamination.

Most people who have drunk from mountain streams, have done so without problems. I have. The same applies to houses supplying water that is drunk, via storage tanks. Most sensible people, might choose not to drink water from their storage tanks, if you told them to take a glassful direct from the tank, having shone a torch inside the tank.

Your decision, your call, your consequences!

ps ref stewgreen 3:39 the chemical wrongly flooded into the drinking water in Camelford was ALUMINIUM SULPHATE. It is widely used to enhance sandbed filters in water treatment and swimming pools

Jan 3, 2017 at 4:28 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Dec 26th a scare story that cos of Brexit the EU might not agree to 2 new interconnectors.
Sounds BS cos the EU is only putting in €13m of the €1bn cost of IFA2 and FAB Links

Jan 3, 2017 at 3:52 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

@Pcar last week while Matt Ridley was away his replacement wrote. :
December 26 2016, 12:01am, the times
Wild swimming is a rare splash of freedom
edward lucas

"Living in a rule-obsessed society, there is nothing more bracing than stripping off and diving in with the wildfowl
Urban civilisation has many advantages. But it also chafes. So most mornings I shed my clean, comfy and well-regulated life, along with my clothes, for a dose of discomfort, dirt and mild danger."

PS Did you.hear about dementia creating aluminum contaminating water to certain Norfolk houses ?

Jan 3, 2017 at 3:39 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

@Golf .em @SandyS said authoties delayed reporting the Camelford error.

In both types ..we should remember that is only the minority of bacteria which are harmful, anyway bacteria need to usually reach quorum to harm ..so in event of water irregularity you'll spot it from colour or taste rather than sickness.

Jan 3, 2017 at 3:33 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

stewgreen, rules about water supply tanks and pipework have been around for 60+years (I don't know how long) They have steadily been improved. Domestic installations are not required to be maintained.

I do not know the precise wording or law, but a plumber would be foolhardy, possibly negligent, to meddle with a tank that was already a risk to health, rather than replace it. It is one of those instances when a responsible plumber may refuse to touch an existing installation, to fix a minor fault. A friendly and helpful plumber (or DIYer) may be able to fix/repair in half an hour with £10 of parts, but this system would still pose a risk to the health of the household.

The HSE does not employ Plumbing Police to make spot checks on homes. When something goes wrong however, the Mains Water Supplier will be very quick to prove their water and pipework was ok, and the problem was within the house.

Jan 3, 2017 at 3:04 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Supertroll & tomo,

It sounds like the driver had driven erratically, and the Police Officer was correct to make a "Stop".

The driver then spoke/acted/behaved erratically, towards the Officer, who suspected abuse of a drug, but alcohol was not present.

Perhaps the driver was charged with DUI, after a "strong exchange of views" rather than driving "Without Due Care and Attention", or whatever the US equivalent is, and therefore further blood analysis was required to find something/anything abnormal.

There is no doubt that people who have consumed large amounts of caffeine, especially combined with taurine (found in energy drinks, such as Red Bull) can become hyperactive/frenetic/agitated/aggressive etc, but Caffeine and Taurine are legal.

The US Law is Driving Under the Influence, I don't know how well it specifies the cause of the "Influence". Would driving under the influence of rage induced by another dumb story about Global Warming on the radio count?

Jan 3, 2017 at 2:16 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Wet Elephant sinks with £8.5 of subsidies
"Radical new tidal energy device DeltaStream installed in the sea off ...
www.walesonline.co.uk - 14 Dec 2015 - DeltaStream sits on the seabed and captures the energy from the tidal currents "

"£18m Tidal energy scheme stops working after just three months
Daily Mail - 2 Jan 2017
Todays Times article is 100% same except for title.

"Administrators seek buyer for Tidal Energy Ltd
BBC News - 24 Oct 2016"

Jan 3, 2017 at 2:11 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

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