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tickets I refer to are seaman fares - which I've been led to understand are also used for relocating flight crew from different airlines not traveling on their own aircraft. The 35kg luggage is a routine point of contention and the cause of a fair amount of argy-bargy at check-in - mostly through ignorance/admin slip-ups - but just occasionally through an attempt to cheat the traveler. Professional credentials must be carried and some airline staff really get pretty awkward about the whole malarkey.
I'd agree with you about pprune - after a number of enormous threads over the years it can get clogged with twits ( I can see why they close off some areas) . I lurk and don't comment.
tomo
UA The reason I find it like the Climate Debate is that people are being encouraged to join a baying mob ,
and when they haven't been presented with all the facts and nuances.
I'll have to backtrack on the injuries ..the flyertalk forum does talk about the level being 2 teeth lost etc.
So yes that is outrageous and does suggest a fail in the procedures and officer, when they are supposed to be able to remove passengers safely.
It does seem that a UA worker anticipated an entire plane load of passengers being cancelled down the line due to lack of crew, ..which would be a bigger failure than letting 4 passengers down.
But actually there were other options for getting that crew there on time.
stewgreen
Climate change in 1315-1317
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4417230/Found-700-years-priest-starved-death.html
"a time of mass starvation triggered by two seasons of relentlessly heavy rain which caused widespread crop failures, vastly depleting the availability of grain for humans and hay or straw for animals."
Surely this cannot be true because bad weather is a feature of man made climate change, not natural?
TinyCO2
yum yum Chili Con Carnage
clipe
Apr 16, 2017 at 11:43 PM | clipe
"...but something went wrong"
I accept that the Captain was legally entitled to refuse anybody access to his plane, and to remove someone who had already boarded.
I think a lot of US Customers will exercise their legal entitlement to fly with anyone but UA. Someone in UA should have been able to prevent too many people boarding the plane
golf charlie
@AK, Apr 16, 2017 at 12:05 AM
...and the two relevant sentences can easily be misconstrued if they are read too quickly.
OK, that is a reasonable assumption and distinct possibility.
However, it is a diversion to disparage TW (second time) to avoid discussing BBC's failure to validate what interviewee said before reporting it as factual.
I note you did not address the more important point:
@AK: ...so why would the BBC even contemplate that some of the material given in the interview might not be correct?
@Pcar: Err, because that's their job? Validate accuracy & truth of what Joe Blogs claims before reporting it as factual news.
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Nor did you answer any of the questions I asked in:
@Pcar, Apr 15, 2017 at 10:51 PM
Answer the questions
Pcar
golf charlie, There was a crew scheduled for the downline flight but something went wrong along the way. No crew available perceived as -Aircraft On Ground- situation?
clipe
I'm wondering if the UAL ground agents were mis-led into believing the dead-heading crew were AOG
Deadhead Captain is PJ1 - (Also if it is AOG deadhead captain - you must deny boarding to revenue passenger and never offload this crew)
clipe
Apr 16, 2017 at 10:47 PM | clipe
Thank you for those links.
Has anyone yet explained why UA had a flight arranged for the following day, that was short of FOUR crew members? When did UA become aware of this significant shortage of capable employees?
To be short of one crew member is unfortunate, but FOUR?
golf charlie
Surely this cannot be true because bad weather is a feature of man made climate change, not natural?
Apr 17, 2017 at 9:30 AM | TinyCO2
This is clearly fake news from a fake newspaper, involving faked archaeology, as it contravenes everything stated since the ascent of Mann to the High Altar of Global Warming, and believed as a matter of faith by 97% of Climate Scientists