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Fooc doing drought in Capetown, 3 years they sa.
They didn't mention CC
No rain forecast for Capetown, but plenty in rest of country
..Surely they should be able to transport it or get a desalination ship plant

Now they are on about Chile Atacama and black immigrants
..Hmm there were none when I lived there ..you'd have to go two countries away to Ecuador or Brazil
..He talks about a wall ..that's dumb ..the Andes are an open border into a desert.

Oh now they are doing Swiss glaciers
"Declining in 20 years a quarter of the snow will have gone"

Feb 1, 2018 at 11:17 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Politicians predictions : Chris Grayling "Driverless cars will be legal on UK roads by 2021"
..bet they won't ..you'd have to do it iteratively
..you'd do it on a farm and see how many sheep/cows you kill first

Feb 1, 2018 at 11:01 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

My second car (Rover 2000) had a reserve petrol tank. A reserve battery would be a sensible idea.

Feb 1, 2018 at 10:34 AM | Unregistered CommenterRoss Lea

First Bob Carter and now Peter Ridd is there any academic freedom left ?

http://www.thegwpf.com/reef-row-scientist-peter-ridd-snubs-university-gag-order/

Feb 1, 2018 at 10:29 AM | Unregistered CommenterRoss Lea

Pcar, the number of people running out of fuel every year is substantial, so manufacturers have to assume at least the same number running out of electrical juice. But they should also factor in both new tehnology stupidity and the more complex calculation of how long the car will last, age deterioration, plus no jerry can of electricity. So yes, drivers of electric cars are significantly more vulnerable than those of conventional vehicles. The current crop of electrical cars will be being used by two groups, those seeking to get in and out of cities cheaper, including fleet vehicles and those who have them as little runabouts, often not the primary vehicle in the household. Those people will have less problems than the general run of the mill traffic. Many of them will have a garage to keep them and charge overnight.

Many cars like mine live outside in the cold and wet. The batteries have short lives in those conditions and while I've never run out of fuel, I have been stranded due to a dead battery. I've been deeply relieved on a snowy night in a deserted hospital carpark that the newer car I was driving had no trouble with the battery. I certainly didn't have to worry that after I'd set off it would die on me.

So if manufacturers don't properly warn drivers of the downsides of their expensive white elephants, I think that they should be responsible for the consequences.

Feb 1, 2018 at 9:44 AM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

golf charlie
In three of four of thousand years the "Time Team" of the day will dig up these caches of batteries and wonder about the reasons for storing them in the same way the archeologists today puzzle over caches of copper axe heads.

Feb 1, 2018 at 9:36 AM | Unregistered CommenterUibhist a Tuath

Pcar
It is not just women who run out of fuel when driving. I knew an allegedly intelligent man who ran his petrol car on less than a quarter of a tank virtually all the time. His argument was why carry the extra weight when you pass a filling station twice a day on your short commute. It didn't stop him running out of petrol several times in the year.I worked with him. There was a theory he was a closet adrenaline junky and liked the excitement of driving on the edge.

In the case of electric vehicles I reckon there are people of all 47 genders who don't understand that the battery is the sole source of energy for an EV and 22 mile range might not be the actuality of the situation, it's just the output from a model.

Feb 1, 2018 at 9:17 AM | Unregistered CommenterUibhist a Tuath

Prince Charles has spoken about his deep frustration at the world ignoring plastic waste in the ocean. He speaks from personal experience as you can see here

Feb 1, 2018 at 3:13 AM | Unregistered CommenterKleinefeldmaus

@stewgreen, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:10 PM

HOWEVER Nissan are negligent cos they have to presume that their customers are thick
..the display has to make it clear that 22 mile is a maximum range
..cos otherwise one day a woman is going to tun out of power on a remote road and something horrible will happen

Bullsh!t. Nissan are Not negligent. A vehicle can break down anytime anywhere. Flat battery is same as running out of petrol - driver is at fault.

Are you advocating females should not be allowed to drive in case something horrible happens?

Feb 1, 2018 at 12:45 AM | Registered CommenterPcar

@stewgreen, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:03 PM

Re: 2012

Not much change, see:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Rise+of+electric+cars+poses+battery+recycling+challenge

Feb 1, 2018 at 12:33 AM | Registered CommenterPcar

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