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"elderly are killed by hot temps"

Perhaps if they took their coats off..? :-)

Apr 10, 2012 at 5:38 PM | Registered Commenterjamesp

Q. How can Westminster become energy efficient?

A. Install a biogas anaerobic digester and fuel it with the human waste generated by MPs.

Result: enough electricity to keep the LEDs alight on a Christmas tree in Parliament Square. Whilst the rest of the country shivers in the dark.

Apr 10, 2012 at 2:03 PM | Registered CommenterJane Coles

@Simon Abingdon

As requested by our host I have started a new thread on the discussion forum and put my first two posts and your intervening reply there. Will do a more substantive reply there soonish.

Apr 10, 2012 at 1:56 PM | Registered CommenterJonathan Jones

woodentop, I had a laugh at this bit where one of the greenies moans that they shouldnt' worry about Scotland gaining independence....

“The proposition that Scotland should change policy on the basis of something that might never happen [...] seems to be faintly ridiculous,” he said.

Presumably he means like climate change itself.

Apr 10, 2012 at 12:46 PM | Unregistered CommenterTheBigYinJames

Shale gas not wind is the future for Scotland.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/shale-gas-not-wind-is-scotland-s-best-energy-source-says-expert-1-2225116

Apr 10, 2012 at 12:35 PM | Registered Commenterwoodentop

More doom mongering, elderly are killed by hot temps, no mention of the lack of deaths during winter if it warms by the same amount.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/elderly-people-more-at-risk-of-death-due-to-summer-heat-1-2225156

For some reason comments are not allowed.

Apr 10, 2012 at 11:55 AM | Registered CommenterBreath of Fresh Air

Simon, JOnathan

Could you take this to the discussion forum please.

Apr 10, 2012 at 10:16 AM | Registered CommenterBishop Hill

I have occasionally mentioned here my puzzlement over the relatively low moral and intellectual calibre of those who push alarm about CO2 and climate. I have just read an article which adds more substance to my vague unease, an article which includes this phrase 'These are not great souls who alert us to troubles but tiny minds who wish us suffering if we ...refuse to listen to them.'

The article is here, behind a paywall: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303815404577331651761806744.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

But it is also here (scroll down): http://antigreen.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/chris-mooney-still-gets-it-hilariously.html#links

where it ends with these words:
'Another result of the doomsayers' certainty is that their preaching, by inoculating us against the poison of terror, brings about petrification. The trembling that they want to inculcate falls flat. Anxiety has the last word. We were supposed to be alerted; instead, we are disarmed. This may even be the goal of the noisy panic: to dazzle us in order to make us docile. Instead of encouraging resistance, it propagates discouragement and despair. The ideology of catastrophe becomes an instrument of political and philosophical resignation.'

Apr 10, 2012 at 9:47 AM | Registered CommenterJohn Shade

I saw this book on Amazon, The Trouble With Physics: The Rise of String Theory, The Fall of a Science, and What Comes Next
and thought the description of the book would be of interest


In this illuminating book, the renowned theoretical physicist Lee Smolin argues that fundamental physics -- the search for the laws of nature -- losing its way. Ambitious ideas about extra dimensions, exotic particles, multiple universes, and strings have captured the public’s imagination -- and the imagination of experts. But these ideas have not been tested experimentally, and some, like string theory, seem to offer no possibility of being tested. Yet these speculations dominate the field, attracting the best talent and much of the funding and creating a climate in which emerging physicists are often penalized for pursuing other avenues

Apr 10, 2012 at 9:01 AM | Registered CommenterAndy Scrase

@Jonathan Jones Apr 9, 2012 at 9:41 PM.

Sorry, forgot to put this reference at the top of my Apr 9, 2012 at 10:41 PM post.

Also I got the result of my imagined sequence of identical discs wrong. However many discs there were, the outermost would still be transmitting the original 100W while successive discs working back towards disc1 would I think be stabilising at ever more extreme temperatures. (Please ignore the idea that in the limit that was the same as conducting the experiment in an insulated container).

Apr 9, 2012 at 10:56 PM | Unregistered Commentersimon abingdon

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