Unthreaded
My understanding is that it was the last of 2 trials ..neither of us has substantiated yet.
stewgreen
"I understand the trial of the 29 is divided into 3 separate trials, with the 3rd not scheduled until September for whatever reason. The state seem to think that the 3rd trial is integral and therefore capable of being prejudiced by knowledge of the 1st or 2nd (the one now concluding), though that might have been grounds for wrapping them up all together. If they are right, then presumably there will be application to halt the third trial, and perhaps to seek quashes for any convictions handed out already - if indeed anything has been revealed about outcomes. It would be interesting to watch the system squirm its way around this logic if nothing has in fact been revealed."
May 26, 2018 at 11:30 PM | It doesn't add up...
Thank you.
It would be a travesty if guilty people are allowed to roam free, as a result of claims that a "Fair Trial" had been compromised.
Victims and witnesses need to know that their rights are protected too.
golf charlie
Being jailed for opposing the political establishment is not new in the UK. It appears the wheel has turned 180 degrees though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maclean_(Scottish_socialist)
Uibhist a Tuath
The recent change in data protection laws has sparked chaos for the Church of England, with vicars fearing they will no longer be able to pray for the sick.
On Friday the General Data Protection Regulation, or GDPR, came into force across the EU in a bid to crackdown on the unethical use of personal data.
But the new regulations have triggered mass confusion, particularly among small businesses, charities and religious organisations who don't fully understand the rules.The Church of England expressed concerns they will no longer be able to pray for the sick when they can't attend church.
Kleinefeldmaus
Biomass: another renewables plan that’s gone up in smoke by dominic lawson
Subsidies for burning biomass — better known as wood — never made sense
(He backs Ridley and sticks it to Drax)
“The government will conduct a cross-departmental review into the role of biomass in future policy for low carbon energy and heat, focusing on the air quality impacts.” But why ever has it taken so long?
dominic.lawson@sunday-times.co.uk
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/scotland/sunny-scotland-set-for-highlands-solar-farm-ccfzg0s7b
stewgreen
Looks like wackiness "Warming UK seas may spell end of wetsuits" by Jonathan Leake, Science Editor The Sunday Times
“We expect 3C-4C increases in sea temperatures by the 2080s around the southern UK, from Yorkshire down through the Channel and up to south Wales,” said Richard Wood, head of oceans and dangerous climate change research at the Met Office. “If you went to the beach in summer you could stay in the water for longer and often not need a wetsuit. Even the northern UK will see sea temperature rises of 2C-3C.”
stewgreen
@It doesn't add up... May 26, 2018 at 11:30 PM
There are reports that the judge who sent him down was actually present at the time of the arrest. Of itself, being chief witness, procurer of the arrest, judge and jury hardly leads to safe convictions, especially if carried out in a hurry so that the defence council wasn't even there, with an immediate hush notice issued to follow.
Evidence not reports imho https://mobile.twitter.com/nictrev56/status/1000170789411356672/photo/1
^Desc is wrong - cop is female who arrested TR
Pic:
https://c2n.me/3UpGi5E.jpeg
Pcar
TR
[Redacted] Arrested for [Redacted] Outside [Redacted]: Leeds Crown Court Issues Media Ban
The reporting restriction, which requires on all publications within the United Kingdom to cease any mention of the details of the arrest or court proceedings of [redacted], was issued Friday afternoon:
The media ban, along with [redacted]’s arrest has sparked a wave of controversy on social media with many criticising the arrest and the court proceedings that followed it.
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Delingpole: Welcome to Stasi Surveillance Britain…
But hey, why watch the film when you can live it for real in Britain.
Here’s a tweet that gives a snapshot of where we’re at:
Nothing to add, all said
Pcar
stewgreen:
I did see that, alongside very obvious signs of censorship such as no article on Breitbart (but plenty of comment) until they came out with [redacted]. I haven't watched the videos to try to verify what was and was not revealed. I understand the trial of the 29 is divided into 3 separate trials, with the 3rd not scheduled until September for whatever reason. The state seem to think that the 3rd trial is integral and therefore capable of being prejudiced by knowledge of the 1st or 2nd (the one now concluding), though that might have been grounds for wrapping them up all together. If they are right, then presumably there will be application to halt the third trial, and perhaps to seek quashes for any convictions handed out already - if indeed anything has been revealed about outcomes. It would be interesting to watch the system squirm its way around this logic if nothing has in fact been revealed.
What is already clear is that the system has made a mess of its approach - it has stirred up a hornet's nest. The intelligent thing to have done would have been to have an officer go and talk to Robinson on camera and explain that there would be no announcements about the trial outcome in view of the risk of prejudicing the third trial, and that therefore it would make sense to move along and await the outcome of the third trial, after which Robinson would be free to report the outcome provided he does not breech his suspended sentence conditions, and that any further attempt to report the outcome of the current trial meanwhile would be regarded as breach.
There are reports that the judge who sent him down was actually present at the time of the arrest. Of itself, being chief witness, procurer of the arrest, judge and jury hardly leads to safe convictions, especially if carried out in a hurry so that the defence council wasn't even there, with an immediate hush notice issued to follow. Indeed, the logic for the hush notice is weak - even if the case is open and shut that Robinson breached his conditions and revealed something that causes the third trial to collapse. It is easy to construe as the state seeking to impose secret courts and disappearing people like Argentine junta leaders. We should have reporting of our courts to keep them honest.
Indeed, one of the biggest failings of our modern media is the lies they put about. I had the misfortune to be visiting and forced to watch when the BBC declared that the Parsons Green tube bomber was a "Surrey teenager". I have lived in enough countries with a propaganda press telling lies to know that that is where we now are. The internet firewalls are being erected on legal foundations. The effects of GDPR are not encouraging:
GDPR seems to be giving us a Great Firewall:
The rather strange effect of GDPR on access to US news sources:
e.g.
Chicago Tribune
Perhaps the EU doesn't want us accessing news from elsewhere?
Pass the samizdat.
See how the new law is being twisted:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5774583/Church-England-fears-GDPR-means-pray-people-without-consent.html
Can you pray for anyone [redacted] without their consent?
So many ways to close down the press, even without Section 40.
It doesn't add up...
BBC Radio Lincolnshire this morning. direct audio
The Bishop of Lincoln was on just back from Fiji/Tonga telling us he plans to bring Tongan school children across to the UK as our British kids need to be motivated on Climate Change #Brainwashing, #EmotionalBlackmail
Look at all those CO2 making flights ..and it's not that long since his last visit to the islands.
13m30s Presenter : "Right in the firing line of CC"
Bish spoke of people in the interior and impact of CC on then : roads get washed away in the rain. Went to Tonga island looked devastated by Cylone Winston.
"We saw that the island had been reduced in size, cos of the HIGHER SEA LEVELS"
(Really, I'm guessing sandbanks get washed away in the storm and then reform in a few months etc.)
"We saw hard evidence of increasing sea levels and extreme weather, as the wind" "at a planters house their front lawn has disappeared over the last 10-20 years"
"I was convinced of reality of CC when I went in 2016,"
" ....now I have seen the impact on vulnerable people..clear a result of human activity ...therefore we must work to address this.... ocean ..ice caps ..."
"We are planning a big conference in Lincoln with a dimension for school children .. some of the Tongan school children to come to teach our children from firsthand experience... so influence Decision Makers in Europe & North America.."
Presenter "what about people who say it's natural ?"
Bish : "The evidence of 99% of the scientists, there maybe some gainsayers( pejorative smearword ?) often with vested interests in the status quo ... "
(* He cannot substantiate that 99% phrase)
"The evidence of the scientific community is that this is a real thing ..."
"..Extreme weather, melting icecaps.."
".. I went to the International Bomber Command Centre opening in Lincoln and it was effectively with windchill it was minus 10"
(IBCC "opening ceremony on Thursday, April 12 ..was a cold foggy day" and veterans were given blankets, there was no ice on the ground ..no Google pages mention windchill)
"The following week it was plus 25 (That's when a southerly wind brought us Italy's weather)
"so a 35C change in 7 days ! That is not normal" (** is it ?)
ended 17m55s
His Facebook posts
Seems like he is replacing one doom religion, with his new doom religion, and using his public platform and funds to promote it.
https://twitter.com/BishopofLincoln/status/996871283760447488